June 28, 2021

Discovery Will Be Fascinating

 World Health Organization Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan is being sued and faces contempt charges for allegedly concealing the efficacy of the drug Ivermectin against COVID 19. Thousands of Indians may have died as a result of Ivermectin treatments being discontinued as a direct result of Dr. Swaminathan's recommendation to halt its use. 


If she looses this she faces the real possibility of being convicted of Aggravated Crimes against Humanity,meaning in India she could face the death penalty.  

A lawsuit already filed  by the Indian Bar Association alleges that she lied under oath and deliberately concealed studies that proved it to be a safe and effective prophylactic and treatment against COVID-19. They cite the Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance which has been lobbying hard to reinstate treatments and to that end has amalgamated numerous studies that conclude the drug works and is safe


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Hydroxychloriquine and Ivermectin may very well have been shelved for purely political reasons. That is certainly what it looks like with 20/20 hindsight from what is admittedly a layman's perspective. Given the timing of the discontinuation and the death toll , it does not seem unreasonable to this blogger that upwards of a million people may very well have died as a result of these drugs becoming gauche and being discontinued in the wake of Trump touting them . 

I base this on the assumption that since both drugs were cheap and available, most people could have been given them had their use not have been proscribed. This is especially rue in places like India where they are in wide use for treating various tropical parasites. 

A seven digit death toll  is hardly the sole responsibility of one bureaucrat. There are many, many people amongst government, industry, the medical profession and those who curate social media who stifled the news that these drugs could have made all the difference.

One can hope that they will receive their due scrutiny and a just reward for their actions.  

Posted by: The Brickmuppet at 07:10 PM | Comments (5) | Add Comment
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1 When this came up on another site I follow last week ago, there were several comments, of course speaking as if they were total fact and could not be denied, that Ivermectin was neither effective against Covid nor safe in that usage; that the studies were very problematic in their methodology, and the dosage they were using was toxic in itself.  All of which may be true, or may not.  But the whole "I are expert, how dare you question me, I'm not even going to bother wasting my time rebutting these claims properly and showing the data" does not help. It just further breaks confidence and association, where people are picking and choosing who to believe with no actual ability to get the real facts and arguments from both sides.

Posted by: David Eastman at Tue Jun 29 00:10:45 2021 (t/97R)

2 A toxic dosage of Ivermectin, for a human, would be about a gallon or two of the stuff.
I mean, farmers routinely take apple-flavored doses meant for horses or cows, for worming, as an off-label use for various human ailments, instead of taking the human prescription pills. You could practically bathe in that stuff. It has been around for a hundred years and is very well understood.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at Tue Jun 29 10:53:58 2021 (sF8WE)

3 That said.... Although most mammals can take huge amounts of Ivermectin, as often as you like, without any harm whatsoever, there are a very small number of humans and animals that just can't deal with Ivermectin in any quantity, however small. It is a genetic thing, and that is why you usually dose small the first time an individual human or animal takes the drug.
So anybody talking about Ivermectin toxicity is talking about the genetically unlucky few, not the vast majority who can bathe in it.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at Tue Jun 29 11:01:02 2021 (sF8WE)

4 Yeah, I've been banging the drum lately on how more than one profession has shat the bed recently.

The fundamental test of an expert is whether J. Random Layman is better off working with them, or ignoring them, when it comes to the expert's specialty.  If ignoring is always better, government licensure, legal mandates, doctorates in the specialty, 'professional' organizations, etc. cannot make someone an expert or a professional. 

For me, the interesting element is the Indian Bar Association.  It makes sense that a hypothetical conspiracy within the American Bar Association might not automatically extend to the Indian Bar Association.

It also makes sense that India might be a little bit more attentive to whether people are complicit in PRC information/biological warfare efforts. 

Yeah, this will be very interesting.

Posted by: PatBuckman at Tue Jun 29 12:30:12 2021 (6y7dz)

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It also makes sense that India might be a little bit more attentive to whether people are complicit in PRC information/biological warfare efforts. 
 
Also: a LOT of Indians died and are still doing so. Add to that that the Indian govt. seems to give a damn about that and you've got the groundwork for at least an attempt at accountability. 

Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Tue Jun 29 18:12:02 2021 (5iiQK)

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