Why the Uproar?
In the comments to the post before last, a question was asked that about the recent story regarding Biden's E-Mails. It's a question I've seen asked rather a LOT.
What I really don't get is why everyone is freaking out about this. Everyone has KNOWN this.
Indeed the story is not new, and was reasonably well sourced. But there are solid reasons that this story is causing so much distress on both sides of the aisle right now.
A: The left has been denying the story about VP Biden extorting Ukrania on behalf of his son... but the New York Post article appears to be a smoking gun that not only refutes the denials, but indicates that Biden specifically, and deliberately lied before Congress when questioned about the matter.
C: This story is troubling even to those not on the right, and confirms that what we on the right have been saying about media bias for 35 years is true and actually more scary than even we imagined.
D: Those pictures of Hunter in the tub with the crackpipe, while pathetic, are priceless.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Fri Oct 16 12:07:04 2020 (PiXy!)
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Pete, don't let that get away from you, get it looked at!
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Fri Oct 16 13:38:27 2020 (5iiQK)
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Best wishes to all concerned, and glad to hear Corona-chan wasn't involved.
I paid attention to the heart noises, and after demanding *just one more* test in the ER, they *finally* detected the markers saying I'd survived the first attack, and the blockage at fault was known as a "widowmaker".
So yeah, never ignore the chest pains, particularly when the rest of the Four Horse...err, Symptoms...are riding along.
Posted by: DougO at Sat Oct 17 16:50:41 2020 (ynBkT)
Unlike a lot of people who are seeing that this story sees the light of day, I'm not stunning and brave. I don't have to sit pondering the potential cost to my livelihood and social circle that speaking this truth will entail. I don't have to ask myself "Is it worth losing my site?" "Is THIS, where I make my stand? "Will it matter enough to make the cost I pay worthwhile?"
That calculus does not trouble me, as it does so many others, because I don't do Twitter and don't have a Facebook page. I blog at Mee.nu!
Because Mee.Nu is still free, in both senses of the word.
UPDATE: Pixy, the administrator of Me.Nu has taken a break from his usual policy of being apolitical on his tech blog to opine upon this dumpster fire at length.
UPDATE 2: Sargon also got his channel locked in the series of purges that have happened the last 36 hours.
In fairness to YouTube, the company says that this ban was not related to his coverage of the NY Post Story. Rather, they say they banned him for a post from some months ago in which he decried the normalization of Pedophelia.
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I made the mistake of reading the Ars Technica article on the subject. It's like a canonical example of the liberal echo chamber, and completely unaware of it. I didn't feel like destroying brain cells by checking the comments.
Posted by: David at Wed Oct 14 21:24:40 2020 (jdGUg)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Wed Oct 14 22:48:54 2020 (PiXy!)
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What I really don't get is why everyone is freaking out about this. Everyone has KNOWN this. It's not new information. It's like with Trump...he is no different from how he always has been. Biden and Trump are both Septuagenarians who have been in the public eye for literal decades...we know all these things, and yet somehow these are the two best people the major political parties can produce.
Posted by: Ben at Thu Oct 15 10:03:02 2020 (PoGrh)
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Ben, the left insist that this is all lies, and Biden is as pure as the driven snow. They also insist that the "good guys" in the Obama administration, up to and including the FBI and CIA, investigated all this and found nothing. So proving that yes, what WE all know, is in fact correct, and that yes, the CIA and FBI are totally corrupt, is big stuff.
Posted by: David at Thu Oct 15 12:07:01 2020 (jdGUg)
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Ben, what David said, but also, that's when they're not lying and claiming none of it ever happened, like when Joe Biden said he didn't get that Ukrainian prosecutor fired, even though he bragged about it at the time.
Do you really want the guy who would look you in the eye and lie about something he's (I believe) been recorded saying running...well, anything? He should probably be playing pinochle with Bernie Madoff.
Posted by: Rick C at Thu Oct 15 16:00:25 2020 (eqaFC)
However, due to a silly, neurotic concern about using a 2017 article from The Onion as a source for a story about a 2020 science breakthrough, I dug a little deeper and found the awful truth.
"Just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two dimensional objects [breadth and length] can exist in a third dimension [height], parallel universes can also exist in higher dimensions.
"We predict that gravity can leak into extra dimensions, and if it does, then miniature black holes can be produced at the LHC.
"Normally, when people think of the multiverse, they think of the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, where every possibility is actualised.
"This cannot be tested and so it is philosophy and not science.
"This is not what we mean by parallel universes. What we mean is real universes in extra dimensions.
Now It's ALIENS Getting Involved in Our Elections.
As I am opposed to cattle mutilations and the destruction of crops, I guess I have no recourse but to vote for the angry cheeto.
Overview of the Situation in Japan
Japan is locked down hard regarding international travel but they've been fairly laid back with regards to the lockdown on businesses. It's largely voluntary....aside from masks on mass transit, and there are various off and on travel restrictions in place.
Their economy is largely open now, though restaurants are suffering from what I've heard elsewhere. All in all, they seem to have been much more sensible than in many places in the U.S. They were both more cautious at the beginning when the situation looked very dire, and quickly relaxed the lockdown when it became obvious it was dangerous, but not as bad as initially feared. The state of emergency was lifted in May. Despite demographics trending quite old and this disease being lethal to the old, Japan's death rate is remarkably low.
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Wait a moment... Yesterday, Russians announced resumption of commercial airline flights between Russia and Japan, starting on November 1. Is Japan actually hard locked?
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Wed Oct 14 17:07:01 2020 (LZ7Bg)
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There is also Taiwan, which was much quicker and more restrictive in their immediate handling of foreign travelers (Citizens coming back from foreign locations were a different matter, and represented all the new cases in the country for a while now.), but while they did impose some select restrictions on capacity and masking, never came close to locking down the nation...To the point that the more alarmist people were demanding to know why the government was still allowing bars and clubs to be opened. This result came despite not only having a significant cross-strait passenger traffic, but also other sources of infection, like the ocean liner (Which was actually a good case study in how less infectious the Wuhan Flu was, even under near-ideal conditions for it to spread.).
Taiwan as a model for other nations to follow is obviously imperfect (The ROC had the ability and authority to do contact tracing to the level of detail that they could release for public consumption, several days' worth of point by point movement details for confirmed infected patients, which is something that would never fly in the US.). But given how the State Department, even at the height of the Wuhan Flu, never moved recommending travelers take 'normal precautions' for Taiwan, there is something to be learned from there.
Posted by: cxt217 at Wed Oct 14 17:08:21 2020 (4i7w0)
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There is an overview of the Japanese Counter-CoronaChan Quarantine Controls here. They were not allowing ANY foreign entry for most of the year (even for residents at one point). Now tourism is still disallowed and they are easing some restrictions, but all entrants must be tested before coming as well as upon arrival and need to quarantine 14 days.(not self-quarantined..held in an approved facility under guard and isolated for the duration). As they build more containment facilities, I suspect their numbers allowed in will increase rapidly, but given the measures, I'd consider the place to be locked down pretty hard.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Wed Oct 14 17:34:31 2020 (5iiQK)
The article is well researched and informative. While my history degree did not have islamic society in particular as its main focus, this article certainly comports with what I have researched regarding the matter, and clarifies a few specifics regarding the ascendancy of a particular strain (denomination?) of Sunni thought that is generally considered to be the culprit, but as the article proposes, may well have simply accelerated existing trends within the civilization.
Honest critiques of "The Religion of Peace" are hard to come by in this day and age as they tend to be either the "woke" apologia frequently produced by todays very PC academia or the product of independent researchers who in response to that Islamophillic dynamic....overcompensate to say the least. It's a good article and I suggest you read it in full. Given today's publishing climate and academic realities I'd go so far as to call it brave.
However, the greatest relevance of the article to us today may not be what it says about another society's past, but the implied warnings it holds for our future.
While it is commonplace to assume that the scientific revolution and the progress of technology were inevitable, in fact, the West is the single sustained success story out of many civilizations with periods of scientific flourishing. Like the Muslims, the ancient Chinese and Indian civilizations, both of which were at one time far more advanced than the West, did not produce the scientific revolution.
Humans have been humaning for as much as 300,000 years over those 30 millennia there have been flashes of brilliance and periods of innovation that gave us math geometry and the ability to do engineering feats build aqueducts to bring water 56 miles from Subbiaco to the Capitoline hill and many other innovations that are not to be sneezed at, but the massive cascading tsunami of knowledge building upon itself without regard to where new knowledge came from as long as it was testable, that we've enjoyed since the renaissance and enlightenment....well that's sort of thing has started a couple of places, but such golden ages always petered out after a decade or two, or were strangled in the crib by entrenched interests (as in China and Rome)...except for the two closely linked phenomenae of the Renaissance and Enlightenment begetting the industrial revolution. These bizarre bank shots involving a series of very specific, political, cultural, and religious conditions allowed for something that had not occurred in humanity over its many endeavors over a third of a million years. Using Thomas Newcomb as a completely arbitrary start for the industrial age, we've been in this happy state for about 300 years.
That's a thousandth of the time we know that humanity has walked the earth (and we can be reasonably sure the earliest known remains were not the earliest people). So, going into the past of humanity and picking any one year there is a one in a thousand chance that one will land in a world ruled by tyranny, oppression, superstition, backwardness, malthusian cycles of despair looming over lives brutish and short with little or no hope of it ever getting better. That's the norm....the median state of humanity...the direction in which history bends.
The idea that history and the universe inevitably bends towards progress is a product of 300 years of everything getting better every year. Between 1803 and 1903 we had gone from near feudal agrarian societies of subsistence farmers, to cars, electricity, and airplanes. 66 years later there were human footprints on the moon, shortly after that we were sending rock-&-roll, bagpipe music and porn to the STARS! It is easy to see how, given the short lifespans of humans, some saw this as an inevitable trend, but it is a divergence from the mean that represents only 1/1000th of humanities existence.
Western civilization, and those others that have used its insights to rekindle and build upon their own lost glories are not examples of the arc of history inevitably bending towards progress, they are an example of a middle finger raised against the very norms of the universe. Our societies are like a kayaker fighting heroically against the flow of a maelstrom threatening to drag us down to the foetid depths that humanity will reach by regressing to its mean.
And we've stopped paddling.
Returning to Ofek's article, look what was happening in Islamic universities at about the time that Europe was beginning to leapfrog Islamic civilization.
No one paid much attention to the work of Averroës after he was driven out of Spain to Morocco, for instance — that is, until Europeans rediscovered his work.
The things that made this wondrous aberration in which we live possible are under attack from multiple quarters. The so-called cancel culture used by the cultural enforcers of "wokeness" is becoming every bit as pernicious and stifling as the ash'erite courts in stifling anything outside the accepted norms. One of the reasons that Ofek points to the Ash'erite school for Islam's fall is the inability of the Islamic leadership to reconcile reason and faith, impericism and theology. Christianity explicitly allows for "rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's" in fact Christ himself (not a prophet or apostle) implored people to do so. There is a very distinct understanding in Christianity, that there is a separation between the secular and the sacred. (The cultural basis for the church /state separation so important to our progress). Sunni theology sees this as another example of how Christians are weak, and that Christianity is the religion of slaves.
Likewise, the secular religion that is so sweeping our ruling classes sees itself as fully integrated into the power structure and government, which its adherents see as weapons to be wielded against unbelievers. Certainly that is hyperbolic, but it does not seem to be far from the practical result. A twitter mob is little different from a sharia court, except that it cannot dispense an amputation or direct death penalty yet. It can ensure that someone who commits apostasy, or blasphemy against the received wisdom of those in charge, looses their ability to engage, their banking privileges, and their ability to live in peace. There were, of course, such blacklists, extortions and literal witchunts, in Europe, but given Europe's balkanized nature, one could leave and go somewhere else. Today, the long arm of the blue-check-stassi can reach you anywhere.
And it gets worse.
Unlike Islamic theology, which is based on the Koran, today's transgressions can change minute to minute on the whims of hash tags, and be fiendishly non-intuitive (did you know that understanding that astrology is bollocks is...SEXIST?)
I'm not suggesting that there's going to be a collapse like the Greek dark age (where they literally forgot how to write and had to re-invent the alphabet) . Technologies are rarely lost. Even after the fall of Rome only a few closely held trade secrets like the chemical formula for the Roman's better concretes and the methods of hydraulic excavation were lost. The beau monde wine-moms are unlikely to discard the washing machines and microwave ovens that have liberated them from 300,000 years of domesticity. It's worse than that. You see the very technologies that make the Twittermob so effective can, as we've seen in China, enable a panopticon undreamed of in the worst nightmares of Orwell. That's a set of technologies that the beneficiaries of these toxic trends are unlikely to see fall by the wayside. Getting out from under such a system would be nigh impossible, not only because of its capabilities, but its stability. After all, freedom as we understand it has been an alien concept for the vast majority of 300,000 years.
We need to really embrace and promote the values of the enlightenment and push back against those who blame it for our ills. Because if we don't, we will not have cast off our chrysalis, and moved on to greater things in the stars, but, instead, like our many forebears we will regress to the mean...a bad place to be indeed.
This dynamic might have implications for the Fermi Paradox, but it has more urgency at the moment for us.
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A very well written article, BM. As societal collapse and technological decline is an important thread in the tapestry that is my Machine Civilization future history, I think about things such as this rather a lot.
One idea I had after finishing Barzun's "Dawn to Decadence" was simply how improbable the story of the last 300-500 years of the West is. As you rightly point out, to think our story is the norm is not only wrong but dangerous. In 405 AD everyone knew the Roman Empire had a few problems, but it had always been around so it always would, right? No worries! What was that about the Rhine freezing over...?
Posted by: Clayton Barnett at Tue Oct 13 11:07:30 2020 (ug1Mc)
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Well, there's several other problems.
1) You can only have so many times to conquer great Byzantine or Persian cities full of leading Christian or Zoroastrian or Jewish natural scientists. And those guys might have kids or grandkids, or a few disciples who are Muslims, but soon the Islamic theological bullies will shut you down or murder you.
Heck, you can't even do textual criticism or Islamic historical research under your own name, openly, at most Western universities.
2) The Quran explicitly says that Allah doesn't set up natural laws as part of Creation, which was why the Mutazilites and other "progressive" groups were shut down hard in the early Middle Ages.
3) Without getting all conspiracist, it's pretty obvious that the Quran contradicts itself in some fairly serious ways, including mashing together passages that indicate that Jesus is divine, the Quran is a divine person, etc., etc. Given that there's also some extreme funny business going on with the Islamic account of history for several centuries, and some very weird archeology, and several different versions of the Quran that contradict each other on fairly serious topics.... Well, basically you can't start thinking and poking into any aspect of Islamic culture and literature, or natural philosophy, or the sciences, without running into serious trouble with the religious/state authorities of the possibly fatal kind. You might be safe sticking to math, but there's problems there also.
Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at Tue Oct 13 20:45:20 2020 (sF8WE)
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Regards number 1 of your points. They were successfully building on those assimilations, until the Asheri'te ascension.
I think number 2 is the big one of the three things you point out. The idea that the almighty set up a system without any rules kinda puts the kibosh on looking for universal constants. The outlook also hampered application of their technologies. The Muslims basically INVENTED optics, their contributions to the theory of optics is very hard to overstate, but it was the Catholics that invented eyeglasses and the telescope and Dutch opticians perfected the microscope. In the case of eyeglasses (mid 1200's) this happened almost as soon as they got the data.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Wed Oct 14 04:43:58 2020 (5iiQK)
I'm not a fan of the YouTuber, but whatever one thinks of him, having a stalker is a dreadful thing, and having them show up at your house is absolutely terrifying, beyond the pale and not acceptable. Deadly force is authorized. However, Boogie's response was...sub-optimal. I've seen a lot of hot takes on this bit of drama over the last week but this one is notable for not being stupid.
Monstergirl Doctor...Almost Over
Well, Monstergirl Doctor has really gone into wilds of nowhere.
Our female protag, putting up a fierce face.
There is a brief moment in episode 4 when one of the protagonoists literally trips over what appears to be the actual plot to the show, but that potentially interesting storyline is resolved in the same episode, mostly off camera. It then muddles along for several episodes with our male protagonist being either a predator, or autistic (or possibly both) and our female snake girl protagonist trying to drive through his thick skull the importance of communication with one's patients, or at least not intrusively examining one's female patients without discussing the matter first and getting consent. (good grief)
Dark secrets are revealed...and then thrown away and due to the lack of actual storytelling, background on the world and characters is provided occasionally by a giant exposition squid.
...and then this happens and there is a...ahem...scene... between these two centaur chicks and our human protagonist and I must say that I have never laughed quite so simultaneously hard and uncomfortably before dropping a show.
This is a medical procedural set in a fantasy world and there has been some exploration of interesting ideas...and there are only three episodes left....so I may finish it...for the sake of completeness....but yeah at this point I'm taking a break and am going to have to say that the show has not lived up to its early potential.
Asking the Important Questions That Have Nagged at us for Some Time
And come to think of it, yeah, our protagonist is not in a fetal position perpetually screaming for some reason. (Well...MOST of the time he's not)
Season 2 of Re: Zero seems to have come to an end, though the story is DEFINITELY not over. If you have not seen this show, do NOT start with season 2 go back and start with Episode 1-A of season one (which I discussed here back in....it's been four YEARS since this came out!).
This season, while lacking the breakneck pace of the first, is nevertheless exceptionally good, maintaining the gatling gut-punch tone but interspersing a good deal of character reflection, development and revelations about the overarching plot, which give the viewer a better understanding of who the heroes aren't.
This show is grimdark to the max but it has a thread of idealism running through it that keeps it from becoming nihilistic.
This season does not progress as far as the first by a long shot, the time that has passed is about what it would take to watch the whole season, and the characters are not far removed in time place or situation from where they were at the beginning of the season. The season finale, doesn't really FEEL like a finale, but there is a definate sensation of having gotten over a hump of sorts as the plot is moved forward tremendously and the story keeps one on the edge of one's seat.
This is a fantastic show, and I highly recommend it to any who have missed it.
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That's the first half of season two; I think the second half airs in January.
(Just checked - yep, second half in January.)
Which will be a busy month since we're also getting season three of Log Horizon and Non Non Biyori, season two of Re:Slime, and season one of That Spider Show.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Sat Oct 10 20:11:05 2020 (PiXy!)
Chekov, Dostoyevsky and Solzhenitsyn Look Down and Weep....
...at the chilling proof that they have, again, been unheeded.
BLM/Antifa rioters march into the suburbs of Wauwatosa (Watch on Bitchute)
There's a lot of talk in certain circles about Civil War, most of it profoundly ignorant, on many different levels. For one thing, such a horrid event would not be cathartic, or cleansing, but rather would be a dreadful terrifying, cancerous waste of lives. Second, the U.S. has never had a real civil war, . "The Civil War" was, in reality, a failed secession, with the secessionists not trying to take over the country, but leave it. While this is hardly more than a semantic point to some, it meant that there were clearly defined geographical boundaries, and an intuitive understanding of the definitions of victory and defeat.
What is shown in the video above is akin to a REAL civil war. The most applicable example of which might be the nightmare that befell Spain in the 1930s. I suggest you read about the Spanish Civil War....but not on a work night, for your sleep will be neither sound, nor in great quantity after you do so.
Other actual Civil Wars had far worse outcomes than even that nightmare.
The parallels to the seeming insanity of our own upper and upper middle classes with the the behavior of the minor nobility and upper middle class in the last days of Tsarist Russia are sobering to say the least. They are completely unwilling to criticize even this pandemonium, lest it threaten their political purity and social standing.
...and that was a thread I was going to expond upon until this morning, whence came news that a small group of smooth brains, allegedly opposed to the above suburban raiders had decided to play the left's game of Burn Loot and Murder....and then it became clear that...well not clear at all....'cause I have no IDEA who these numb-nuts are actually affiliated with. They certainly don't SEEM to be on team MAGA or team D.
However, I would argue that, on balance, this ugly plot is actually not as worrying as the video above. That is because an attack on a public figure has been thwarted (something we should be able to, in a bi-partisan fashion rejoice over). But the attacks on ordinary citizens in their homes...for the crime of being middle class...was not responded to until well after the fact.
In case your reading comprehension or my typing skills are lacking, I'm not suggesting that an assault on a public figure, even one as loathsome as Whitmer is in any way acceptable. I'm pointing out that, in a time of civil unrest, it is easier to protect a few politicians than the vast bulk of the unprotected populace from those who seek to do evil, and evil rarely attacks the most protected positions, leaving the citizenry to fend for themselves in this situation. And this situation is a very worrisome one indeed.
I'm FREE! But Not As Free as I'd Like.
Last Tuesday I was...ill. I had a bad cold and a splitting headache on top of an active kidney stone. Going to work in a mask with a runny nose is unpleasant in the extreme, and given the anxieties I would cause my fellow employees as a snot-rocket, I called in. Wednesday I was sicker, with severe gastrointestinal distress a headache akin to having a wayward chestburster in my head and the cold had moved into my chest, but the coughs were dry.
Thus, I scheduled a test to see if I had indeed been visited by Coronachan. The test was on Friday and I was, therefore, under quarantine, until I got the results, which came in yesterday.
I failed the test.
No Wu-Flu for me.
This means no certificate of pestilence-proofedness to get me into the fast lane on planes or allow me to go to Japan or any of the other benefits that come with getting the Corona-coof . Dang.
OTOH I'm feeling much better and am not, you know, dead. Since I did have a certificate of not having Coroina YET, I was allowed to return to work today, which I VERY much needed to do having missed over a week of pay. However, 10 days in bed did nothing to get me into shape for lifting boxes during our peak season, which started last Wednesday.
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Aww, a miss again. Looks like all hurricanes this year were basically fart in a puddle, except one. And this one is passing so far away from my house that we're not getting a drop of rain. I'm going to go to a fly-in on Saturday.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Thu Oct 8 21:57:08 2020 (LZ7Bg)
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Not sure if you've heard the news, but Amazon has scheduled Prime Day for next week. I hope your place of employment has taken this into account and doesn't get blindsided. All I can say is good luck!
Posted by: StargazerA5 at Mon Oct 5 12:37:02 2020 (h0tOe)
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I'm under state mandated quarantine because of the "coof!' so unless my test comes back negative I'll miss out on that overtime.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Mon Oct 5 13:53:43 2020 (5iiQK)
Perhaps Ben referred to Taiwan as, you know, a country.
That's what happened two two Hololive V-tubers, Kiryu Coco and Akai Haato, who, in the course of a joint You-Tube livestream looked up their analytics online (a very common thing for V-Tubers and YouTubers to do), discussed where their viewers were, and, I gather thanked the residents of each country. A lot of their viewers are in Taiwan, and they mentioned and....
For those "inappropriate remarks", they have been suspended, by Hololive's parent company, Cover Corporation for at least three weeks.
There is coverage of this here, here, here, here and here...though it's anyone's guess how long those links will go somewhere.
The whole affair came as something of a shock, particularly since these are not small talents, Kiryu Coco is much bigger than one would think as as she's frequently the top super-chat earner on You-Tube in any given month. This made such waves that even American V-Tubers who avoid politics completely have taken a moment to mention it...and say "Taiwan".
It's telling that according to the ANN and Niche Gamer articles linked above that China's One China Policy was specifically mentioned in the Simplified Chinese version.
There has been a bit of backlash particularly about that latter discrepancy.
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I'm OK. Site should be back up, now. It was a simple matter of mis-reading a bill. I thought it was due January 10th, not October 1st. It means a lot that someone noticed, though...hopefully I'll get back to posting about models or World of Warships again, soon.
And someday, I'll detail my epic 5 year adventure.
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So for some reason this site seems to have gone into night mode or something, with black on black text.... Hopefully that's just a glitch on my end....
Posted by: Mauser at Sun Oct 4 03:27:36 2020 (Ix1l6)
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It's black text on a black background for me as well...
Posted by: Siergen at Sun Oct 4 08:53:02 2020 (jIT9h)
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Well, I was playing around with the settings and tried to switch to a dark background with white text, but for some reason the white text remained black. Now the text on the Styles dashboard is invisible and I'm fumbling around in the dark trying to fix it.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Sun Oct 4 14:29:14 2020 (5iiQK)
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Hololive is an idol production company, Japanese-style; indeed they initially intended to be a singing-type of idol thing, just on Youtube, and the whole vtuber streaming kind of happened organically. The downside is, of course, that it also imported a bunch of the pathologies of that market to a new platform.
The real trick there is that their performers basically start off with a huge leg up. The technical challenge of setting up a cute little avatar image and getting the streaming going is not that large. But building an audience is tough - most people stream to almost nobody, and it takes a lot of work and luck to go from a dozen people to a thousand.
The Hololive folks, now that they've got that critical mass, basically walk into the job already successful there. They launched their EN side with five streamers all with thousands of people watching, just because the company could afford to spread a little hype around the market - because they've got their already-popular stuff feeding into it, it's like being a brand new cover band getting picked to tour with and open for an established band that can pack the stadium every night. Of course they still have to be engaging enough to keep people watching, but there are plenty of people who have that trait but not the interest needed to get a career off the ground.
The downside is that yeah, the idol industry is not pretty; it's about sucking a bunch of money out of the wallets of lonely young men, and part of that is not pissing off the lonely young men. In Japan this usually manifests in "no boys" - no boyfriends, no partners, definitely no getting married, to keep up the fantasy that you're at least theoretically available (even if the guys have no chance, a lot of them just won't deal with the reality of "my idol is interested in a man who is not me!")
If you take the Japanese money, you've got to deal with that kind of pathology; if you take the Chinese money, well, you have the Chinese equivalent.
In either case, the company reaction is pretty much par for the course - even though as observers we can nod and say "man, the idol industry sucks," that's how it is. As far as the production company is concerned, the idols are there to do a job and get paid, and they're disposable if they cause the company trouble; how much more so for a vtuber, when they're just anonymous actresses for an identity that the company manufactured?
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at Sun Oct 4 16:58:12 2020 (v29Tn)
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Brickmuppet, do you know HTML at all? If so, you can hit F12 and use the browser tools to disable the black background so you can read the control panel. You might have to do it more than once--so that I could read the text here I had to turn off hte background-color on both the html body tag, and the div with the "main" id.
Posted by: Rick C at Sun Oct 4 17:13:24 2020 (eqaFC)
An idol company.
So the "doesn't have their employees back" thing doesn't aply, since in this country they'd be a 13th amendment violation.
Interestingly, several of their V-tubers got their audiences on their own and (as I understand it) Hololive walked in and offered them marketing deals.
Now Hololive is doing auditions for V-Tubers whose ascendance they can micro-manage. I've heard (from a few English language V-Tubers) that even the ones who built their own following have, in the last few days. been shocked to learn that Hololive owns the characters now, and they can be replaced. ( I have no confirmation from that other than hearsay, but learning that Hololive is an Idol company means that they are the Weyland-Yutani of meat markets).....and yeah...looking it up, If I'd known ANYTHING about the Idol scene I'd have known what hololive was. I thought they were a new company looking to get in on the V-Tuber thing.
Still no luck on the Blog obviously. In fact, it is supposed to be back to its old settings now.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Sun Oct 4 17:16:03 2020 (5iiQK)
8Huh. So I can just color my text using the widget at the top of the comment field.
Also, if you highlight the text, it's readable.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Sun Oct 4 17:17:49 2020 (5iiQK)
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The only thing I want to know is if Kizuna Ai is owned by Hololive.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Sun Oct 4 18:46:26 2020 (LZ7Bg)
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No.
Kizuna Ai was affiliated with upd8 but now she is run through Kizuna Ai Incorporated.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Sun Oct 4 21:30:37 2020 (5iiQK)
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Time to have some kind of Taiwan film festival!
Did you guys see the story about the new CCP Chinese ethics and law textbook, where they include the story of Jesus and the woman caught in adultery... where Jesus waits until the Pharisees have gone away, and then HE stones the woman to death?
Seriously, I think it's clear who the baddies are.
Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at Mon Oct 5 08:43:25 2020 (sF8WE)
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While Cover Corp (Hololive) is indeed an idol company, they take a percentage (albeit a large one) rather than taking the whole amount and paying a salary. And the talents are largely individual; from what I've seen (Korone, Coco, now Gawr Gura) many of the girls could walk away, set up an alternate new character, and have 50,000 followers on day one.
I hope that what went on behind the scenes is more along the lines of "you did nothing wrong, but we have to pretend to punish you because these Chinese assholes are insane".
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Tue Oct 6 10:25:05 2020 (PiXy!)
While Cover Corp (Hololive) is indeed an idol company, they take a percentage (albeit a large one) rather than taking the whole amount and paying a salary.
OK. That's better than I'd feared. It also makes sense given how the first lot of V-tubers were recruited (Most, if not all were already established.)
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Tue Oct 6 10:51:03 2020 (5iiQK)
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I'll admit that I find Coco quite funny and I've watched quite a bit of Fubuki playing various games (and they just announced a Fubuki nendo, so there's a buy!) Haven't quite fallen all the way in the hole, though, there's a bunch of them I can't recognize and a few I only know names for but can't really get into watching.
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at Tue Oct 6 14:43:27 2020 (v29Tn)
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