June 18, 2019
I did not see this outcome, and I am happy to be wrong.
It's no doubt a short reprieve, but that the citizens of a city of 8million could achieve this in the face of a a totalitarian nation of 1 and a half billion is nothing short of amazing. Outnumbered about 180 to 1, they successfully staved off further erosion of their liberties. This should serve as both an inspiration and moment of humiliating self-reflection to those of us whose political movements have yielded liberties for generations in the face of similarly minded totalitarians, but at odds of roughly 1:1.
Cdr. Salamander has been following this shamefully under-reported story and, as always, his take on it is well worth your time to read the whole thing.
Finally, there's this....
On the other hand, I certainly would not want to be in Hong Kong on 2-Jul-2047 as I suspect China's celebration of that 50 year anniversary of assuming control from the Brits will be quite memorable, at least what they allow to get out to foreign media.
Posted by: StargazerA5 at Tue Jun 18 16:03:45 2019 (jl9eJ)
Rather, Hong Kong is very much a goose that lays golden eggs and clamping down on them with tanks will kill that - as well as insure the KMT loses in the next presidential elections in Taiwan. That the PRC was actually willing to alarm Taiwanese voters while trying to pull this move, does not say much about the wisdom of the current Red Commie leadership.
On a side note, I thought Ace of Spades actually had more posts about Americans who believe we should be more like the PRC, but aside from Tom Friedman, I have not been able to track down much on the site - I could have sworn that the head of AGSCME was on the record as saying great things about the PRC...
Posted by: cxt217 at Tue Jun 18 21:35:46 2019 (LMsTt)
Some of the "free" Chinese that I've read or follow when they're able to get videos out unmolested have mentioned that the level of oppression faced by the majority of the country is something the "free" people aren't supposed to even know about, let alone *talk* about.
That the Chinese government believes it can continue to control things like this is, IMO, the biggest example of a regime bound to fall within decades.
Posted by: Ben at Wed Jun 19 10:18:28 2019 (osxtX)
It should be noted, however, that Russians themselves were just as horrible 40 years ago. Yeltsin and Putin made the country civilized in just 25 years (well, made Moscow civilized). Sadly though, Deng Xiao-ping could not do it for China. The darkness of Chinese heart just too deep and has its own inertia.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Thu Jun 20 13:09:02 2019 (LZ7Bg)
Victor Mair on Language Log covers a lot of this stuff. He often buries the lede behind a linguistics point or joke, but he does not hide the story. Hong Kong is fighting for its culture on every level, and has been for years.
But a lot of mainland Chinese are also fighting very cleverly, which is why China's Internet has new censorship every few days.
Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at Mon Jun 24 06:52:31 2019 (sF8WE)
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