March 18, 2022
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Otherwise, buying Dell consistently brought about a better result than buying HP for me. But you know, chasing a high-end PC seems like a whole another subculture.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Fri Mar 18 21:23:10 2022 (LZ7Bg)
KSP is the only thing that's really made it chug, but that was with a 200+ part ship that caused powerful systems to weep and lesser boxes to play the game in spf, not fps.
Plus, y'know... pretty blue lights.
Posted by: Wonderduck at Fri Mar 18 21:50:27 2022 (DB9Lx)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at Sat Mar 19 01:47:34 2022 (PiXy!)
This is a test.
Posted by: PatBuckman at Sat Mar 19 21:12:08 2022 (r9O5h)
the most advanced chips all need tech from ASML, a Dutch company that makes the equipment to make the chips.
I use a mac for personal stuff, but I've used a lot of Dells, hand built PCs, and other brands (maingear, boxx, HP. Fujitsu, Sony, etc) for work over the years. the Dells are the most solid.
Posted by: punchyninja at Sat Mar 19 21:18:20 2022 (qnek2)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Sat Mar 19 23:30:07 2022 (LZ7Bg)
Hardware: These are all basically electronic circuits. You can
learn more by studying electrical engineering, or going to a school
for electronics technicians.
Electrical engineering can work differently at higher frequencies than it does at zero frequency (DC). At DC, you have your usual basic electrical circuit theory, where you can put wires on a battery and a light bulb, and make the lightbulb light up. Computers are one of the many electrical engineering applications that involve periodic signals at higher frequencies.
Hardware electrical engineering makes a system out of a bunch of circuits, and electrical engineers either make components, or buy components to arrange in circuits and systems.
Printed circuit boards (PCBs) are a composite laminate sandwich of metal and something like fiberglass. The engineers call the fiberglass layer a 'dielectric', and you can think of it as an insulator. The traces are made by etching some of the metal layers. The PCBs in computers use many many layers, and are complicated, difficult to design, and assume that very specific components are available to attach to the PCBs, and complete the working circuits/systems. These components are ordered through places like Digikey, and Mouser, and sometimes you can't assemble more boards if you can't get more of the same component, like if the manufacturer has production issues or quits making them.
One type of component that gets attached to a PCB is an integrated circuit. (IC). An IC is made by etching silicon wafers. A specific model of IC has a known set of circuits on the wafer, and a known set of connections in a pin out format. Some designs of IC circuit can be made on different 'processes', at very different resolutions. If the available capacity for process A is maxed out, in theory you can make some more with unused capacity for process B. Adding IC process capacity requires building a building to house some capital equipment that has a very long lead time. These ICs are the chips being discussed.
The capacity for the best processes is very limited, there are very few locations producing the ICs for the latest CPUs. A CPU is a module that plugs into the motherboard (a very fancy, expsensive hard to get PCB). Some generations of CPU were PCBs with ICs on them.
There is an extremely broad need for ICs that are made using simpler, older processes. Here's a random one I found.
This is built on a process that can be at least thirty years old. You can buy 8 per dollar if you buy 2500. In quantity, you buy them packaged so that your fancy PCB assembly machine can feed them easily. It may show signs of a chip shortage. 35 days until new inventory, c 750 in stock, and c 1400 in stock for a suggested substitute.
All of these processes are extremely delicate and sensitive. Some of them may have alternative possibilities besides Neon, or the other expensive stuff, but switching over an IC assembly line would at take time before it was producing volume at quality again.
IC and PCB supplies are important if you are building new stuff, or repairing or replacing old stuff. If you have a good inventory of spare parts, this wouldn't hurt you. So, this is basically a slice of the broader issue of JIT making things fragile.
Beyond that, I dunno.
Posted by: PatBuckman at Wed Mar 23 20:20:49 2022 (r9O5h)
Actually, this is a bunch of fads, plus labor cost, and a different set of skills.
You have fads that are purely Big Tech. You also have broader business/MBA/industry fads. Anything that a journalist can boil down into a phrase, and speak loudly about without having any understanding, can become an industry wide fad. Internet of Things is probably such a fad.
These industrial control systems were put in for what seemed to be attractive reasons. a) solid state electrical systems often break less than mechanical systems, so potentially less down time from repair b) range of behaviors that can be adjusted c) more data collection d) not requiring people to be present for the system to be managed.
There are a bunch of flavors of problems. One, there are two different fields involved, and they do not think in a very similar way. IT security, and plant operations/industrial controls engineering are extremely different. Walt Boyes, a controls industry trade journalist, used to say that he knew how to teach people do secure this stuff, and that it was easier to teach it to plant engineers. Two, a lot of implementations are carried out without having a full understanding of everything involved. Someone exposed to the basics of both IT security and industrial controls engineering is rare; often implementors, or organizations, are missing one or both skillsets. Management making the decision tends to be ignorant of the real complexity, and risks. Three, organizations can blindly push through changes in IT that cause additional vulnerability to the industrial controls. Suppose your industrial controls in scores of locations are controlled from three sites, properly air gapped from the internet. Supposed your HR decides that people are working from home, starting yesterday. Can you say 'insecurely designed control system now accessible through whatever internet gateway IT implemented in the middle of the night before start of business today'?
So, we were doing bad stuff before, but the lockdown was insane bullshit. We might not be fixing as long as management contains woke people who consume mainstream media.
IT practice, generally, has a lot of security vulnerability. PArtly because management is able to demand that things be done, and fads be followed, partly because the people being trained often have holes in their understanding.
Industrial controls? Hardware isn't free, and you have to program the software. You are typically tied to a vendor who sells stuff that can be programmed using stuff that one of your engineers understands. PLCs are one of the items that you may purchase for this. PLC is one search term, and LabVIEW is another. LabVIEW is a weird programming language that has some industrial applications along these lines.
There are also fundamental technical vulnerabilities driven by Big Tech fads. As opposed to fads within the whatever widget industry, of MBAs wanting /their/ company to be the first to implement $technical_buzzword.
There are still a lot of mechanical, etc., controls being used. I've heard tell, inside the past five-ten years, of folks who still have pneaumatic controls in place. a) wholesale replacement with a different system is typically expensive, on the budgets that these places have for that b) If you change types of control, your work force needs different skills. This explains why old methods are sometimes retained, but I meant it to explain why changing back would at least take time.
i) cloud always struck me as being dumbass ii) anyone who bought cloud based PLCs probably deserves to hang. Cloud was a pretty significant fad, so there are a bunch of people who are doing that, and should have instead bought their own servers, and paid for the necessary manpower.
I want to say that people running factories of course had enough sense not to... Hearsay suggests that this is manifestly untrue. The best effort to understand broader trends in American society, suggests we are maximum retard, independently of business hearsay.
tl;dr: We have been f&cking up a bunch of stuff for decades. It took a lot of effort to pile up all of this staggering incompetence. I didn't even mention that our foreign policy weakness substantially contributed to hostile foreign actor willingness to give us metaphorical swirlies. We will not quickly be addressing matters.
Posted by: PatBuckman at Wed Mar 23 20:21:43 2022 (r9O5h)
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