September 01, 2014

I'm Thinking That The Takeaway Is....

...don't buy a Taurus semi-auto. 



Wow!

It's surprisingly reliable with the safety on and no finger on the trigger....but not in the right sort of way. 

Posted by: The Brickmuppet at 05:52 PM | Comments (7) | Add Comment
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1 That is a truly remarkable design flaw. It's one thing for a pistol with significant wear to occasionally double (a worn sear on a 1911 has surprised plenty of people), but with the safety on and no finger on the trigger?

Taurus has had their ups and downs in quality control, but this is the worst I've heard of. Unless it's the victim of amateur gunsmithing, this is cause for a major recall. Talk about failing the drop test.

-j

Posted by: J Greely at Mon Sep 1 19:59:26 2014 (1CisS)

2 At least it only fires once with the safety on... that's something... I guess...

Posted by: Mikeski at Mon Sep 1 20:32:47 2014 (luDkn)

3 I have a Taurus PT99AF (Beretta Clone) and it works fine.

It would be good to see what a competent gunsmith has to say about the condition of this gun to explain the malfunction.

Posted by: Mauser at Mon Sep 1 20:58:11 2014 (TJ7ih)

4

It's really scary that a gun could do that. Whether it's a faulty unit or a dreadful design, it's still a scandal.

The Japanese Type 94 pistol had this problem, too. (or one very like it. I don't think you could fire the type 94 just by shaking it.)

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at Tue Sep 2 11:18:37 2014 (+rSRq)

5 This weapon, the Taurus 24/7, is the standard sidearm of the Police forces in Brazil., Apparently, the issue has been a real problem with those pistols all over the country. However, I've never heard anything about something like this with the pistols Taurus has exported here. It's likely a problem with a specific batch...but still....yikes.  

Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Tue Sep 2 15:08:50 2014 (DnAJl)

6 Modern pistol designs have a block that prevents the firing pin from moving without the trigger being pulled. One YouTube commenter suggested very astutely that the block isn't working, and the firing pin spring may be gone or broken, that would allow you to shake the pin into striking the primer.

Posted by: Mauser at Tue Sep 2 15:44:18 2014 (TJ7ih)

7 The current models on the Taurus web site have a completely different trigger design; either they upgraded it for export to the US (drop test!) or the service model is an older design. Disturbingly, however, their manuals warn that the manual safety must be on to protect against accidental discharge during drops, which is not happy-making.

I don't buy the argument that it's just an unobstructed firing pin with a busted spring. He's not snapping his wrist hard enough; the firing pin has very little mass, and needs a real smack to hit the primer hard enough to detonate. He's shaking the hammer loose from the cocked position. Since it only fires once each time, it's not just a worn notch causing the hammer to drop on its own; one of the other parts isn't stable, and I'm betting it's the thumb safety's mechanism. 

-j

Posted by: J Greely at Tue Sep 2 19:43:05 2014 (fpXGN)

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