November 03, 2015
Woodell permitted Bo Jiang "complete and unrestricted access” to the NASA Langley Research Center in Virginia, according to the indictment filed October 20. The indictment stated that he had violated NASA’s security and IT regulations over a two-year period, from Spring 2011 to January 2013.
Posted by: Tom at Wed Nov 4 20:29:55 2015 (hBG9u)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Wed Nov 4 21:01:07 2015 (XOPVE)
Shortly after Wolf’s press conference Bo Jiang sought to flee the United States and was intercepted by federal agents at Dulles Airport on March 16, 2013. He had purchased a one-way ticket to his homeland in China.
The Chinese had in his possession a laptop with a Seagate External Hard Drive "that contained the NASA unauthorized, unrestricted access information,” from NASA Langley, according to the U.S. Attorneys office.
This seems to be a fairly major screw-up.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Wed Nov 4 21:13:54 2015 (5oCPR)
The whole story is not worth a discarded eggshell. It's pure abuse of prosecutorial powers, and a disgrace.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Thu Nov 5 14:00:28 2015 (XOPVE)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Thu Nov 5 14:03:14 2015 (XOPVE)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Thu Nov 5 14:05:51 2015 (XOPVE)
Posted by: Wonderduck at Thu Nov 5 18:20:31 2015 (a12rG)
That's not to say there aren't thousands of Chinese spies all over. It's just that our useless counter-espionage folks could not get to them, so they trumped up charges against a random Chinese guy
That may well be the case with regards to Bo Jiang (whenever the only thing a person is convicted of is 'lying to investigators' the prosecution generally has nothing on them), however, it still looks like the NASA guys were not following security protocols. There is a bit more in the local paper here. The breach seems to involve access to a single computer rather than the unrestricted access to secure facilities which the DC piece implied.
I do not work in IT and computers are very nearly black box tech to me so I can't speak to whether or not the violated protocols were asinine and pointless or not. But it does seem that granting an unauthorized person access to a computer with sensitive information would seem to be a problem. The punishment might indeed be perfectly reasonable and the premise of my post is erroneous if that is the case, but the original article did not give that impression and I remain unconvinced that there was no disciplinary action warranted. The analogy I'm thinking of is that if one leaves the door to the armory unlocked, even if no weapons or ammunition goes missing, punishment is warranted.
(Of course given that this is the government, I'm perfectly willing to believe that the protocols that were violated by the NASA guys were some Kafaesque gordion knot of stupidity, I just haven't seen any evidence that's the case)
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Thu Nov 5 18:32:00 2015 (5oCPR)
The analogy I'm thinking of is that if one leaves the door to the armory unlocked, even if no weapons or ammunition goes missing, punishment is warranted.
That sounds reasonable, but then we circle to my first comment: what is there to steal in Langley? They have HL-20 that they themselves stole from Russians, which I suppose is something, but still I cannot help noticing that no classified information was accessed.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Thu Nov 5 19:03:59 2015 (XOPVE)
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at Fri Nov 6 03:05:42 2015 (v29Tn)
what is there to steal in Langley?
Quite a bit probably, it's a NASA research center that adjoins an air-force base and does a good deal of work with engineering colleges.
@ Avatarit's a sign of our good fortune that we're not.It could also be naivete'. Note that the premise of my post is cynically questioning the motives of the government...just from the perspective of a different set of worries. Something stinks here...whether its a whitewash or (as Pete suggests) a scapegoating is not clear to me.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Fri Nov 6 12:14:08 2015 (5oCPR)
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at Fri Nov 6 12:37:12 2015 (5oCPR)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at Fri Nov 6 13:48:54 2015 (XOPVE)
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