October 21, 2019
This Seems Big Enough to Warrant More Coverage .
Many of you may have been vaguely aware of the fact that there was a big firefight involving El Chapo's sons and some cops. Indeed it got some coverage, albeit mostly by local news operations in border states.
However, if this post over at Claire Berlinski's place (via) is to be believed, then this is a major, major debacle that is indicative of the near collapse of the U.S.M. as a functioning country. According to Ms. Berlinski's correspondent, the battle involved...
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Emphasis is mine.
Mentioned later in the piece is the fact that the surrounded troops were ordered to surrender and turn over their quarry by the President of Mexico.
There has been a lot of ink and pixels spent on Mexico as a failed state, but if this report is true, then Mexico is heading for chaos like it hasn't seen since 1910-20. The Federales cannot control a state capital, the families of their troops cannot be protected, there are technicals running around with impunity and the president is literally surrendering to terrorists then this is it.
Mexico is falling apart.
Here's some footage from Mexico's Aztec News (without translation)...
...and there is a selection of footage here albeit from RT. Note that some of it is duplicated from above, but there's some that appears to be from the perspective of the Federales as well as the gangsters.
This is not an isolated incident. There are whole regions of Mexico that are not under the control of the government and when the police try to assert that control they are murderously rebuffed...
This is a calamity of the first order and is especially of concern for the U.S.A. as we are the next country over and a inviting target not only for the waves of refugees, but the gangsters, paramilitaries and crime bosses fomenting the chaos.
And yet, aside from some local news outfits in border states...I'm hearing very little discussion of this dreadfully consequential development.
However, if this post over at Claire Berlinski's place (via) is to be believed, then this is a major, major debacle that is indicative of the near collapse of the U.S.M. as a functioning country. According to Ms. Berlinski's correspondent, the battle involved...
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...Heavy weaponry that would be familiar on any Iraqi, Syrian, or Yemeni battlefield was brought to bear. More and worse: custom-built armored vehicles, designed and built to make a Sahel-warfare technical look like an amateur’s weekend kit job, were rolled out for their combat debut. Most critically, all this hardware was manned by men with qualities the Mexican Army largely lacks: training, tactical proficiency, and motivation.
Then the coup de grace: as the Chapo sons’ forces engaged in direct combat with their own national military, kill squads went into action across Culiacán, slaughtering the families of soldiers engaged in the streets.
Emphasis is mine.
Mentioned later in the piece is the fact that the surrounded troops were ordered to surrender and turn over their quarry by the President of Mexico.
There has been a lot of ink and pixels spent on Mexico as a failed state, but if this report is true, then Mexico is heading for chaos like it hasn't seen since 1910-20. The Federales cannot control a state capital, the families of their troops cannot be protected, there are technicals running around with impunity and the president is literally surrendering to terrorists then this is it.
Mexico is falling apart.
Here's some footage from Mexico's Aztec News (without translation)...
...and there is a selection of footage here albeit from RT. Note that some of it is duplicated from above, but there's some that appears to be from the perspective of the Federales as well as the gangsters.
This is not an isolated incident. There are whole regions of Mexico that are not under the control of the government and when the police try to assert that control they are murderously rebuffed...
When a convoy of Michoacan state police did make a rare appearance in El Aguaje last Monday, they were ambushed and slaughtered by Jalisco cartel gunmen. Thirteen state police officers were shot or burned to death in their vehicles
This is a calamity of the first order and is especially of concern for the U.S.A. as we are the next country over and a inviting target not only for the waves of refugees, but the gangsters, paramilitaries and crime bosses fomenting the chaos.
And yet, aside from some local news outfits in border states...I'm hearing very little discussion of this dreadfully consequential development.
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It seems to me the only rational response by the federal government involves the equivalent of a mechanized infantry division descending on Chiapas with a rather permissive ROE. But their current president has a policy that explictly disavows anything of the sort. I can't see how this gets anything but worse, ending in a military takeover in the next decade or so.
Posted by: David at Mon Oct 21 23:51:11 2019 (wXI5i)
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Given that the last time there was an insurgency in Mexico (Actually in Chiapas, not Sinaloa.), the Mexican army only managed to effectively suppress it by launching a surprise offensive during a cease-fire and still had to maintain martial law in the region for years...And that was against garden variety guerrillas, as oppose to the proto-military force with a professional cadre that is currently running amok right now...I do not think the Mexican army as it is currently constituted would be able to do it, as oppose to, say, the Columbian Army following Plan Columbia.
Posted by: cxt217 at Tue Oct 22 17:45:14 2019 (LMsTt)
Posted by: pete at Mon Jun 8 04:22:11 2020 (2i0aH)
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